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Always is with Phoronix comments.

You find everything there from “Gnome is satanist” all the way up to pro-genocide crap.

I really don’t know what it is about the site that brings out the craziest souch.

Doesn’t actually seem like a bad release at all.

But I’m pretty married to Flatpaks at this point so no thanks, I’m good.

E: not sure who I’ve hurt the feelings of, Snap fans (are they out there?) or Flatpak haters. Either way, nobody important.

I have a Fedora Workstation (i.e. Gnome) desktop, a Fedora Workstation laptop, a Windows 10 laptop I’m forced to use for work.

My wife doesn’t have a PC (well I guess she has a Steam Deck, actually, but it only ever goes into desktop mode in order to install/update Stardew Valley mods).

My daughter has my old laptop, with Mint on it.

No issues so far.

My dad did have a laptop with ElementaryOS on it, but since he bought an iPad the laptop has just been gathering dust.

Looking through the gitlab, it seems the backport of this hold gesture to GTK3 was rejected for good reason. Seems very unfair to imply it was done out of sheer spite.

It would break a lot, require a new API, and devs reworking a lot of programs.

It’s also completely reasonable just from the POV of not accepting major new features in GTK3 when GTK4 exists.

Devs likely expect GTK3 to be feature-stable, given GTK4 has been out a while and GTK5 work starting soon. It’s at the tail-end of its life.

If somebody wanted a major new feature in Python, for example, I wouldn’t be surprised if the Python team gave it the go-ahead for Python 3 but not Python 2. GTK3 is done, they’re only really doing bug fixes now.

Nobody expects new features to be added to Plasma 5 or Gnome 45.

It’s 100% the right decision not to keep adding features to an old widget toolkit that has been superceded by GTK4 and is almost EoL.

That issue aside… good. Seems like a nice feature.

Yes, there are ways to install newer versions in a way that shouldn’t cause any issues (as opposed to adding a bunch of unstable repos): Flatpak.

IMO Flatpak has made Debian a lot more usable. You get the stability of the Debian base system but can have newer apps if you want to, without unnecessarily complicating matters with PPA repositories that seemingly always fuck up.

The tone here is surprisingly negative. Personally I’m happy with the efforts of the Flathub team 🤷