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What are the differences between all of these terminals?
If you’re occasionally using them, there aren’t any.
If you’re excessively using them, there are many.
Looking at ghostty-git in AUR, zig is built on haskell? With 221 haskell libraries.
And what does it need pandoc-cli and hslua-cli for?
Looked at it, interesting, no package, installed
cosmic-term
insteadUses alacritty under the hood, with tabs and tiles!
Thought out choice but disappointing nevertheless:
My stance for now is that Ghostty will not support sixels.
What do you think about the Kitty Graphics Protocol?
I like Kitty Graphics. I like graphics in the terminal for two reasons:
- integration with MC (midnight commander) style directory browser to show previews of jpegs, pdfs, etc.
- w3m web browser. I like being able to use that super-light weight webrowser when working/coding to keep me focused.
Reason (1.) works with Kitty. (2.) does not. (2.) is pretty esoteric so I think sixel will probably die out soon due to the user base?
thanks but i’m good with st
rn Im using Kitty, I’ll check out Ghostty later.
Any speed comparison?
warning: this is a giant rant lol
Before the rest of my comment, let me be clear, I think this terminal is good, and i have no problems with it. My problem is with the hype.
I simply don’t understand the hype whatsoever. First of all, it’s not even faster than my current terminal. especially when running
cat /dev/random
for whatever reasonFor the test i ran this rust program i saw in a comment thread somewhere
use std::{ fs::File, io::{BufWriter, Write}, }; fn main() { let buf = File::create("/dev/stdout").unwrap(); let mut w = BufWriter::new(buf); let mut i = 0; while i <= 100000 { writeln!(&mut w, "{}", i).unwrap(); i += 1; } }
compile with
rustc
to test yourself.running the binary with
hyperfine
, i get~35ms
on my current terminal (foot), and~40ms
on ghostty.The terminal window sizes about the same size, in fact, there were 3 extra lines in
foot
so it was technically handicapped.Next is the whole “native ui thing”, which sure, if you use gnome, or mac is fine i guess, but what about kde where qt is used. And for me i simply hate title bars so i turned it off immediately and now it looks better.
I do think the tabs are cool, not much to say about that, I wouldn’t use them, but for those who do, pretty cool.
I have a similar opinion with the panes, personally i think if you want panes, just use a tiling window manager, or tmux or something, but i also dont really have a problem with this (tmux can be annoying).
If I’ve missed anything let me know, because I really dont get it.
I must be retarded. People are excited about a terminal emulator. Why?
It’s incredibly fast, has the features you would want like tabs/splits, maintains comprehensive compatibility, and is written cleanly in Zig. What’s not to like?
I’ve never seen a slow terminal emulator. Most terminals have tabs and splits. Never experienced compatibility issues. Don’t care about Zig at all.
Are these all the reasons? Another toy software written out of boredom.
Most terminal emulators are in fact slow and they can be a huge bottleneck if you run complex TUIs or workloads that print a lot of output.
Ever written a program that was extremely slow only for it to run instantly after removing your debug print statements? That’s because your terminal is slow.
Fast terminal emulators already exist, but they notably refused to add tabs/splits and overall tended to be quite janky. Ghostty merging these features may not be the most groundbreaking innovation, but a high quality piece of software that can drop-in replace something you use daily with some cool improvements is something to be excited about to me. :-)
Thanks, this clears things up. I didn’t know what exactly was making print IO slow.
I don’t use any complex TUIs. Pretty much everything is CLI or GUI. Which TUIs did you have in mind that were slow?
I’d like to test this soon. I’ll look for a modern TUI framework.
I’ve never seen a slow terminal emulator.
https://feddit.uk/comment/14184961
Most terminals have tabs and splits.
Most for wayland have no tabs.
Why is it so funny to see issues with a terminal running in 4k? It never crossed my mind that some folks do that.
Konsole has no tabs?
Beats me.
Konsole has all the KDE dependencies.
So? You’re limited by disk space?
Yeah, I couldn’t care less what language its written in