I’m a teacher and our division just “upgraded” to W11 with a new version of outlook that is basically a web app on desktop. Several times a day my laptop comes to a complete crawl while Teams decides to open itself. Can’t open or close programs, Firefox won’t register mouse clicks, nothing. Graphical glitches appear al the time with menu bars and task bars disappearing regularly, requiring force quitting the app or logging out of the desktop.

When I first switched to Linux I assumed my experience would be like this. But now it’s the other way around.

Rant over.

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    What a big pile of shit software, I swear I’m just gonna quit because of this ass smelling garbage.

    Today I discovered that C:/Users/MyUser was silently an alias of C:/Users/OneDriveBullshit/MyUser only in the explorer. So I just figured out why some documents were often disappearing for months, I’m just working on a multiverse were depending on the application the same path don’t lead to the same folder.

    Earlier this week I unzipped a file and couldn’t remove resulting files without administrator privileges.

    I’ve never lost so much time for any fucking software, let alone a paid one. And don’t even get me starting on the fucking ads they put everywhere even if you unchecked the 154 options in 42 different menus.

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      Also, I don’t get how people just accept that any input they perform will require an average of 1s for feedback.

      But at least now I understand why macs are so popular…

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      My current company just got bought out earlier this year, we are in the process of rolling all our stuff into their IT infrastructure.

      I was lucky enough to get to use Debian as my OS on my old company laptop because I was the only IT at this company. Last week they finally issued me my new corporate laptop, which of course is Windows because the company that bought us out is a 100% Microsoft house.

      One of their sys admins was on a call with me to get the laptop set up and working on their VPN, MFA enrollment, it was supposed to be a “quick 15 minute call.”

      I watched him as he fought remotely with my machine for almost an hour. The VPN wouldn’t work no matter what he tried, then the GUI started acting up, then RDP wasn’t working right, then MFA wasn’t working. This was a brand new installation from their golden image too on a brand new high end laptop.

      After about 20 minutes, I told him I was gunna stay on the call muted and to just let me know when everything was working properly. Then I hopped back onto my Linux laptop and spent the rest of the call getting actual work done while their new Windows machine was pooping the bed.

      He didn’t actually even get it working at the end of the hour lol. He had to remote in later that evening to finish doing a bunch of registry fixes and file purges to finally get the VPN to connect.

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      I just dealt with my directories secretly being in one drive. It actually was only found because the system was buggy and I couldn’t find the desktop directory in Explorer.

      I had to edit the registry to fully resolve the issue.

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        At least now I know that I’m not crazy. Also that this issue is on Microsoft and not on my company’s IT department.

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          Yeah, Microsoft is super buggy. It’s a wonder that people think that Linux is unreliable.

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    Debian in WSL is my single favorite thing about Windows work laptop. Real tools! 😃

    I’m back on windows for work after a decade away, and all the reasons I left are still there. The tools are still lacking, the layout is non-sensical, prototyping requires expensive subscriptions, and it’s not designed to get work done.

    *nixes and macOS, to a lesser extent, are much nicer. The *nixes are designed to get work done. I have my gripes, but good lord they’re small comparatively.

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    Software neutrality in the entire public sector should be a law. Leverage of proprietary software and media like professor published book scams are criminal extortion.

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      Yeah they transferred all of our network files held on our own private servers over to Teams. I didn’t even know that teams did file storage. I guess through one drive.

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    My experience exactly. My current company is rolling out new W11 laptops as the old ones age out.

    I’m consistently amazed at how poorly Windows 11 runs on these brand new, $1500 enterprise grade machines. They all have the latest Intel i7 chips, 16GB of DDR5 memory, Nvme 1TB drives, 1440p beautiful screens, and they perform like ass.

    Constant lockups, stuttering, slow to wake up, slow to open programs, the fans constantly spin up super loud with almost nothing running in the foreground.

    I see frequent GUI glitches and bugs, literally had the WiFi stop working on one yesterday, just wouldn’t connect to anything and the tray app wouldn’t pop up when clicked. Had to restart the whole computer and log in again to get it to connect.

    Meanwhile, the 11 year old retired desktops that I repurposed for internal company resources like Open Project, Uptime Kuma, and Ansible are running plain old Debian with KDE Plasma and are rock solid. They never crash, never freeze up, are always super responsive, and are fast to update. The longest one of them has taken to update was maybe 3 minutes?

    Windows on the other hand… Lets just say there’s a reason I push updates at the end of the day.

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        Worse, Vista you could wrestle into submission, Windows11 is so deeply embedded with ads, spyware, bloat, and spaghetti code, it’s almost impossible to get it clean.

        And even when you do, you have to constantly fight to keep it that way. The fact that Windows will change your settings for default apps and privacy preferences without your permission after a major update is absolutely insane and disgusting.

        I shouldn’t have to constantly be on guard for my OS Which I paid $200 for professional licensing to just sneak its own preferences and settings back to what it wants.

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    You can control what programs open on boot in the task manager. Teams was one of the first things I disabled.

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    I requested a Windows machine at work a few years ago, because the specs were amazing, and I was getting frustrated with Mac OS. After using the Windows machine for a couple days I was reminded why I don’t like Windows anymore, and returned the machine, despite its amazing specs. It just wasn’t worth it.

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    My first job I was using Windows, thankfully I was able to use Linux my next 3 jobs in a row. It really helps justify Linux when our production servers are always running Linux.

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    Going from my laptops to a client’s Windows machine feels like I’m stepping back in time, every time.

    Even my Win10 VM is light years ahead of Windows ‘proper’ because of all of the modifications to make it usable.

    MS Windows belongs in a museum, not at an office or on a desk.

    (hate spewed at me by Adobe Premiere)

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    And here I am looking to move away from Linux after they started rejecting submissions for political reasons.

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      They removed maintainers that work for Russian corporations, they are not blocking submissions from any Russian citizen.

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          The reason I replied is because of the “submissions” part. They aren’t doing that, everyone can still submit code that might get accepted. What they did was remove some of the people in charge of deciding what gets accepted from the team.

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            I think that entire comment is actually incorrect. My understanding is that they did not “remove” any maintainers, but actually rejected patches from Russian citizens (because of their employer), and also removed some Russian names from the maintainers list who already have code in the kernel.

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    Hm. Not sure if it’s because I’ve stuck with gnome and kde. But both definitely freeze often during high I/o or intense processing times.

    On multiple machines and multiple distros. It’s one of the most annoying things about it really.

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      Can’t comment on Gnome as I don’t use it, but that hasn’t been my experience with KDE. Previously running Tumbleweed and now running EndeavourOS

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    You can still use the classic version of Outlook, that comes with latest Office. It is literally called “Outlook (classic)” in the start menu.