• ArgentRaven@lemmy.world
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    13 days ago

    So I don’t know if I missed it, but what’s Israel’s justification for attacking another sovereign country? And I saw they were talking about putting settlers there? Aren’t they essentially doing what Russia is doing to Ukraine? Why isn’t the UN coming down on them?

    • PugJesus@lemmy.worldOPM
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      13 days ago

      Hezbollah, a terrorist group in Lebanon, has been trading fire over the border with Israel for the past year. Israel claims that they’re definitely only invading Lebanon because Lebanon isn’t stopping Hezbollah (Lebanon, practically speaking, can’t, because Hezbollah is better armed than the nation’s actual military). In service to this very noble goal, Israel has been indiscriminately shelling residential areas, because as we all know, that’s how to defeat terrorist organizations.

      Rather predictably, the Israeli ultraright has already begun salivating over the prospect of having another bleeding ulcer like Palestine to genocide and colonize; while the Israel right pretends that the ultraright doesn’t exist and they DEFINITELY aren’t thinking the exact same thing. Realistically speaking, Netanyahu, the Prime Minister of Israel, started this shit to have another crisis to hang onto power with, as, absent the war(s), he’s deeply unpopular.

      The UN isn’t coming down on them because the UN is powerless and slow. They just got around to ‘expressing concern’ for their own peacekeepers that are being fired upon in Lebanon.

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        13 days ago

        What I don’t get is why?

        It’s not a particularly dense region of resources, nor is it a particularly enjoyable climate. Like at least Iraq had some oil or something, otherwise you get a desert. Yay. Desert. What are we going to do with more desert?

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          13 days ago

          There are certainly economic incentives and parts of the country are quite nice, but I think, at the end of the day, the core incentive for Netanyahu and his goons is just ethnic supremacism. “We must show these dirty foreigners who God has granted this land to”

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      12 days ago

      Lebanon, along with other states like Jordan, was flooded by Palestinian refugees after 1948 and then the 6 day war and other Arab states sent weapons because syria and Israel considers it a proxy war (after syria got spanked in the YKW).

      The lebanese maronite Christians lived on the rich north/sest side (Beirut was once called the Paris of the middle east) while the south/east side (over the mountains) were incredibly poor shia Arab Muslims. The Syrians armed them and told them to attack the west, which they did, and won, which lead to half a decade of civil war that…vaguely settled when Israel invaded and occupied them from 85 to 2000.

      Every now and then hezbollah in the south attacks Israel with rockets and such, Israel responds by bombing or even invading, which doesn’t really work well for anybody.

      It’s a disaster that nobody will fix, but it’s the same problem as everywhere else, poor rural folk are angry and jealous of rich urban folk who don’t care about them and hold them in comtempt for being backwards, we have the same thing in America.

      I look forward to being lectured by people who read second-hand propaganda about how this is all bullshit and actually the US specifically did… something that caused decades of war.

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        12 days ago

        It didn’t even occur to me that people were firing rockets, etc, from Lebanon into Israel. Duh. That makes a lot of sense, and I just assumed they fired from Gaza and so forth. Well today I learned.

        Hopefully your actually pertinent information will continue to be upvoted. Thank you!