Unnecessary and deeply concerning bow to the new “king”
Update: position got backed up by an official Proton post on Mastodon, it’s an official Proton statement now. https://mastodon.social/@protonprivacy/113833073219145503
Update 2, plot-twist: they removed this response from Mastodon - seems they realize it exploded into their face!
OK let me add fuel to the fire. here in Andy’s response he says the tweet was from last year which is technically true but it was from December 2024.
Also how can he think that Trump stands for little guys when he has elon musk as his pet monkey
I actually thinknit’s the other way round but anyway.
I was just going to start my de-google to Proton. Time for a new plan.
Eventually you will find you want a mail provider that just supports IMAP / POP without some paid middleman application just to use you email with certain clients else me stuck on the slow web UI. Luckily there are alternatives.
I went through so much effort to move my small business and team over to proton. wtf.
I have been de-googling for a while and proton was next on my list
Extra weird because this is always the narrative, yet Trump could be any further from “standing up for the little guys” if he tried. It’s the same with the AfD in Germany, their voted policies (which is public as per the EU regulations) are as anti-consumer pro-corpo as you can be, even edging our truly crazy libertarian money sucker positions.
Just some advice for all of you affected by this.
Begin demanding a response from the ownership of this company.
“Is this Message approved by your board, and owners”
Just leaving doesnt make a difference, and some of you in the comments bought services right before this. That fucking sucks.
We dont have journalists and media on our side to help any more(arguably we never did, but that’s a separate discussion)
I think there are still good bones in Proton, but you know where at least one piece cancer is, and its in the worst spot. Demand as stakeholders that they remove the cancer or admit its not going to happen. Repeat your messages until they publicy respond as a company not just the head of it.
Its a shame if you dont do at least as much as expressing that they owe you an explanation and that you need the company as a whole, to why this had happened
This is a betrayal to many of you, tell them exactly what they need to do
Good luck. It only takes one of you to suceed and we all win
“omg, turns out this big tech company is not my friend”
I don’t know if I would describe proton as a big tech company. Even if they were, their whole pitch is “you can trust us”.
Standing up for the little guy. Huh. Is that why billionaires and CEO are throwing literal tens of millions at Trump? Why he staffed his cabinet with billionaires? Why the center of his policy is tax cuts for the giga wealthy, at the expense of everyone else and the national debt, at a time where wealth inequality is literally tearing the country apart?
https://www.axios.com/2025/01/15/trump-windfall-fundraising-500-million
https://www.axios.com/2024/12/09/trump-wealth-cabinet-politicians-billionaires
These are objective, public facts. Like, I’m way more conservative than Lemmy’s center and willing acknowledge any good Trump does, but what reality is this guy living in? Who is this statement for? Who the heck does he think is using Proton services? He just pissed off his employees and customers for… What?
Probably doesn’t want to get banned in the US… Or so my copium tells me.
Silver lining is that Proton is owned by a non-profit.
I was thinking this for a second, but is this really plausible? Normally when we talk about corporations we talk about how powerful they are and how they use different nations to locate headquarters and offices in order to mitigate legal and tax obligations. We regularly talk about how governments can’t reign them in and how they act with impunity.
But now? “They HAVE to capitulate. They are just doing it to survive.” Really? Do we really believe that? Or is it more likely that this is what they want and if they didn’t, they’d be fighting tooth and nail to stop it? I’m with the second option honestly.
That’s what I don’t get. If the proton CEO was actually raging MAGA, the last thing he should do, strategically, is stoke fires by stirring this up. That’s business 101.
…He must want conservative’s ears for some kind of policy issue, maybe to the detriment of Proton’s competitors. But what?
Seems a lot of people share this view that somehow he’s for the little guy, despite quite clearly being for the opposite. It’s the same over the pond, there’s a paranoia held by many that the government is out to persecute the common people. Very strange on both sides, it’s almost Orwell levels of Newspeak.
God damn it.
Exactly. I just switched to proton mail this week.
Been using their paid service for months. I have so many aliases. I’m just surprised. Surely this company knows its biggest user base has to be too educated to let this slide.
Lots of educated fascists. Having a degree hardly guarantees a progressive worldview. If you’re in an extractive industry or a heavily financialized one, it works against you.
Why is this a bad thing?
Why is it a bad thing that the company I’m supposed to trust to keep my information and communication safe and secure is a boot licker for the incoming fascist asshole and his possy?
Because the main guy seems to like policies and isnt throwing up a red carpet for people to walk into the data centers?
People that Trump hates use proton as an end-run around the actions of trump’s cult.
Trump has never been honest about any of his intentions through his whole life. Proton isn’t even based in the US, so how would the US even subpoena them in the first place. The CEO’s statements make no sense.
They didn’t need subpoena, or any other “legal” means if the ones in control are complicit.
That’s aside from the point I was making. Some people might be thinking that Proton is cozying up to Trump to avoid getting unfavorable treatment from his admin and they don’t really like him, but they’re out of Trump’s reach, so that can’t be the motivator.
No matter what angle, Andy Yen is just dumb.
What’s the best way to transfer to another secure email provider?
Really disappointing. Never imagined this from Proton. Truly dead to me now.
Honestly I’ll still be using Proton and recommending it because it’s just good and a net benefit for everyone, but goddammit Andy you should’ve taken Swiss neutrality to heart this time and not said anything.
1940s Swiss bank neutrality.
Fuck Proton. Use Mullvad instead.
Ahh yes, Mullvad email and drive. Both great products!
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Yes, let’s.
Less maintained? Did you even read the article you posted?
“We take these findings extremely seriously and have moved quickly to patch the identified issues,” said a Mullvad spokesperson. “We’re grateful to X41 for their thorough audit, which helps us continually improve our service’s security.”
Despite the concerning nature of some vulnerabilities, the researchers praised Mullvad’s overall security posture. “The Mullvad VPN Application appears to have a high security level and is well positioned to protect from the threat model proposed in this report,” the audit stated.
*Edit: just in case anyone is curious, here’s what the deleted comment said:
Yea, let’s switch to some other service that is less maintained because of a compliment to a guy we don’t like.
Taking the time to remove Google, embraced proton mail … Maybe it’s time to just write letters and send meme post cards.
Same here; but I’m switching to tuta
People somehow still surprised by Switzerland being neutral on Naziism
That chocolate ain’t gonna pay for itself!
